So much crap!
It’s hard to change the world when you’ve got so much crap in the way, you know? Relationship trouble, work stress, fear of failure, fear of success… or (and this is the worst) having absolutely no clue what to do. Heck, all that can make it hard to change your socks, much less change the world!
Well, you know what? The two of us have been there too. In fact, we’ve spent much of our lives in so-much-crap-land, and we still visit from time to time. It’s warm and comfortable and safe, even if it is kinda stinky.
Change your socks. Change the world.
But we didn’t stay stuck there forever. We charted a course through the darkest depths of so-much-crap-land, and we made maps of how to get out. We sometimes forget to look at the maps, and it’s embarrassing. But we have them! And we would be overjoyed to share them with you!
It can be scary to open up.
We promise to be gentle. We promise to treat everything you say as sacred and confidential. We know it’s hard, and we want to help. We know that you are a sweet and beautiful person, and we want to help you shine!
When can we talk?
We’re flexible and will totally work with your schedule. The best times for us are weekday afternoons (U.S. time). Every week, rain or shine, cold or warm, sick or healthy.
Do I have to be “freaky” or “revolutionary”?
Nope, not at all! We’ve got nothing against non-freaky non-revolutionaries.
It’s true, however, that we’re both quite freaky. If you feel uncomfortable about working with us, no worries! We won’t take it personally. We can even refer you to others, if you need help finding someone else.
How do I know if this will be good?
If you read our about page or our manifesto, you’ll get a good sense of who we are.
If you read our blog or our book, you’ll get a good sense of what we’re good at and how we might could help you.
After that, it’s up to you. We trust your intuition. If your intuition says “maybe”, let’s talk on the phone for a little while. It’s far easier to connect over the phone than via text, and it’ll give your intuition more to chew on. We promise not to pressure you into buying anything, we just want to let you get to know us a little bit.
Also, you can see what other people have said about what it’s like to work with us.
“Kyeli and the ever-awesome Pace have changed the way I do marriage and business and they are two of my favorite people in the world.” – Naomi Dunford
“Pace and Kyeli are the perfect pair: together they are yin and yang, symbolizing the best of both worlds. One is more emotional, the other more logical; one is more like rolling thunder, the other like a gentle breeze; one is more expressive, the other more thoughtful. And they are both equally generous and compassionate problem-solvers that give their attention with every ounce they have. Pace and Kyeli are passionate about changing the world, they are messengers from another place and time so exciting we can only hope to aspire to. I have attended every incarnation, every workshop they have held since the very first one at a small campout many years ago.
Nothing that isn’t so pure and altruistic could keep my support and interest for that long. Pace and Kyeli are doing the most incredible things in this fractured society and they can help you, too. I can affirm that they have changed my life for the better and I am off changing the world now, too.” – Heather Lynn Renwick Laurence
“Pace and Kyeli are some of the most intuitive and keen relationship coaches out there. The best thing
about working with them is that you get two sides of the same coin, and you can really understand from other people’s perspectives what might be happening in your relationship. My session with P&K was so instrumental in better understanding my man and our relationship, even though I thought we were doing pretty well before the session. I was able to ask questions that have been bugging me for awhile and get super clear, sometimes deep and provoking answers, that will totally transform my relationship for the better!” – Nathalie Lussier
How much does it cost?
A one-hour coaching phone call with both of us is $150. You get both of us for the price of one! (: We can also chat with you via the chat program of your choosing for the same price – $150 per hour for both of us.
What’s the catch?
The catch is that if we can’t help you, you get 100% of your money back. (It would be silly to accept money for helping someone and then not actually help them, don’t you think?) We can’t refund your time (unfortunately, we’re not time mages), but we’ll cheerfully return your money with no pressure or guilt whatsoever. We’re not big fans of the passive-aggressive. (:
And before we even get anywhere near the money stuff, we’ll talk on the phone for 15 minutes to make sure we’re a good match for each other. No one wants to pour their heart out to a complete stranger (or, in this case, pair of strangers), so it helps to take a few minutes to connect before we decide whether to work together. There are no expectations or obligations here – just a friendly chat.
Awesome! How do I sign up?
This one’s easy! First, you email Kyeli to set up your free, no-pressure 15-minute chat. Give her a range of times that work for you. Easy, simple, and fun — Kyeli is friendly and fun to talk with.
Once we’ve all chatted, if we decide to work together, we’ll walk you through the rest of the process – but here’s a sneak preview. It’s such a sneaky preview that you can skip right to this part if you’re so inclined (for example, if you already know you want a session).
Each session is 1 hour long. You can purchase a session (or group of sessions) by clicking on any of these buttons here.
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After you take care of that, you’ll receive an email. Reply to it and we’ll work out the date and time you’d like to talk with us. We’re looking forward to talking with you! It will be awesome!













“Kyeli and the ever-awesome Pace have changed the way I do marriage and business and they are two of my favorite people in the world.” –
Nothing that isn’t so pure and altruistic could keep my support and interest for that long. Pace and Kyeli are doing the most incredible things in this fractured society and they can help you, too. I can affirm that they have changed my life for the better and I am off changing the world now, too.” – Heather Lynn Renwick Laurence
about working with them is that you get two sides of the same coin, and you can really understand from other people’s perspectives what might be happening in your relationship. My session with P&K was so instrumental in better understanding my man and our relationship, even though I thought we were doing pretty well before the session. I was able to ask questions that have been bugging me for awhile and get super clear, sometimes deep and provoking answers, that will totally transform my relationship for the better!” – 





